After two weeks of trying Carefresh all over our 2x4 C&C cage we quickly saw the beauty in fleece flippers and we ordered the Cavy Cafe for one end of the cage. It has been phenomenal. Not only is the product quality, and did it arrive quickly, the pigs do 95%+ of "their business" in the litter box we have placed in the Cafe, or in the nearby Carefresh in the Cafe. We have two pellet bowls, two water bottles, a litter box, and a large hay rack in the Cafe (for two piggies). It took some thoughtful arranging, but they fit fine and we have virtually no hay, Carefresh, or urine elsewhere in the cage (on the fleece). (We put the litter box so one side of it is on the outside wall of the cage and the other side is a divider between the fleece area and the kitchen, rather than putting it in the back corner -- this works because the lip of the Cafe is high enough to keep it in place, and I think this is a great way to further separate the fleece and kitchen areas and to keep them clean. One pig likes to stand in the litter box while reaching over to the hay rack, which works nicely for catching her mess -- but it's far enough away that the hay doesn't really drop into the litter box.) Because they do so much of their business here while eating, we are conscientious to spot clean it each time we pass by so they don't get turned off and it doesn't smell. It's super easy to do, super contained, and as a result, no smell, no mess, and we are thrilled! THANK YOU!